matt2000 wrote:just thought about this some more. the whole idea of timeout fines is to stop people pulling the plug when they are in a chase. well if insim can distinguish which people are being chased and when they escape/get busted (we get the pink messages whenever someone is wanted) then surely the fines can only be enabled during this time. then it could be boosted to €3000+ and eliminate normal timeout fines all together, or drop them to the same price as pitlane/spec (who cares if someone disconnects rather than pitlaning themselves anyway?)
just my opinion again
Matt
edit: another advantage of this is no more refund problems when there's a mass d/c
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There are other reasons for this fine other than just police chase evasion. It may not make sense but origianlly inSim would count a timeout as 'going to spectate' so thats why it incurred the same fine as going to spectate. Anyway... here are some explainations.
Q:
(who cares if someone disconnects rather than pitlaning themselves anyway?)
A: No. We dont want cars dissapearing from track when ever they feel like it for free. Problems with that:
* They can avoid a pitlane charge to change setup/paintjob/skin.
* They can avoid the repair costs if the damage is bad, (like > 150)
* They can get a free telepit when crashed or flipped on roof.
* We have some people crying for 30 minutes about 600 pitcharge at times. I doubt many will choose to pay for a !pitlane or pit costs if there is a free option. We already have people cheating repair costs even though it is very small payment (2-30 euros). This pit cheat is exploitation of the system loopholes and not kindly looked upon, and a big automatic penalty is comming for this btw. So I advise you stop it.
Many people fail to realise that this is supposed to be a CityLife server, with real consequences for bad driving and is supposed to be a challenge. People that have cash, have earned it, and those that are broke are because they cant or WONT drive safely. Im not talking to everyone of course. We have 100's mature of players willing to play by the rules and understand its limitations, and I thank them for that.
Further more, cars disappearing of track is not visually appealing. Driving back to pits, damaged or not is part of the experience of owning a car you are responsible for and must take care of it. To be honest, if I am ever on some other server somewhere, pressing shift-p feels kinda wrong now.
Yes, agreed the timeout problem with large fine is
not desired. That is being worked on as we speak and a better solution will come. (probably incurring same penaty as a !pitlane + leave-server cost)
Yes, already the suspects do get a bigger fine if they disconnect or try and run into pits/spectate. Thats a 2000 fine and usually covers most police chase fines which are usually between 200-2000 in most cases which is the reason for the current penalty amount.
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Thanks to everyone for suggestions in this thread so far. Conversation is always a good thing.